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	<title>Comments on: Plaid Candidate calls for local loyalty call: a Cymru Card</title>
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	<description>Member of the UK Parliament for Carmarthen East and Dinefwr</description>
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		<title>By: Jonathan</title>
		<link>http://www.jonathanedwards.org.uk/plaid-candidate-calls-for-local-loyalty-call-a-cymru-card/comment-page-1#comment-24</link>
		<dc:creator>Jonathan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Feb 2010 19:36:20 +0000</pubDate>
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Here&#039;s a link to an article on the Irish scheme.  they have been doing this sort of thing since the 70s.  Im quite relaxed about how it would actually work in Wales. A Cymru card could be linked to current superstore loyalty cards - you wouldn&#039;t have to have an extra bit of plastic.  

In terms of local producers the benefit obviously is that the scheme would generate consumer demand as has happened in Ireland.

Its no coincidence that major global food companies have located their produciton facilities in Ireland in order to qualify as Irish based companies.  The decline of welsh food manufactguring particularly in the dairy sector is something we have to address if we are to have added value for the food we produce.

with regards your final point, i fully agree.</description>
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<p>Here&#8217;s a link to an article on the Irish scheme.  they have been doing this sort of thing since the 70s.  Im quite relaxed about how it would actually work in Wales. A Cymru card could be linked to current superstore loyalty cards &#8211; you wouldn&#8217;t have to have an extra bit of plastic.  </p>
<p>In terms of local producers the benefit obviously is that the scheme would generate consumer demand as has happened in Ireland.</p>
<p>Its no coincidence that major global food companies have located their produciton facilities in Ireland in order to qualify as Irish based companies.  The decline of welsh food manufactguring particularly in the dairy sector is something we have to address if we are to have added value for the food we produce.</p>
<p>with regards your final point, i fully agree.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Jones</title>
		<link>http://www.jonathanedwards.org.uk/plaid-candidate-calls-for-local-loyalty-call-a-cymru-card/comment-page-1#comment-23</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Jones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Feb 2010 15:02:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I take your points Jonathan but I am still not clear how the card benefits the local producer? For example, if I grow potatoes locally and the crop is wholesaled to a local retailer where does the card fit in? 
Similarly, I don&#039;t quite understand how the system works for the shopper. Do I get extra points on my Tesco or Coop Dividend card for local produce? If I take a Cymru card and show it to a local retailer how does it work?
Sorry I may be missing the point here but &#039;loyalty card&#039; scheme benefits needs to be explained in &#039;noddy&#039; terms before people are going to bother carrying yet another bit of plastic around with them. Also retailers are not going to stock local produce unless there is a demand for it and loyalty cards are not &#039;demand generating&#039; tools - price, quality and marketing campaigns are.
This is in danger of being just another gimmick rather than a serious effort to regenerate the Welsh economy by restructuring the financial system.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I take your points Jonathan but I am still not clear how the card benefits the local producer? For example, if I grow potatoes locally and the crop is wholesaled to a local retailer where does the card fit in?<br />
Similarly, I don&#8217;t quite understand how the system works for the shopper. Do I get extra points on my Tesco or Coop Dividend card for local produce? If I take a Cymru card and show it to a local retailer how does it work?<br />
Sorry I may be missing the point here but &#8216;loyalty card&#8217; scheme benefits needs to be explained in &#8216;noddy&#8217; terms before people are going to bother carrying yet another bit of plastic around with them. Also retailers are not going to stock local produce unless there is a demand for it and loyalty cards are not &#8216;demand generating&#8217; tools &#8211; price, quality and marketing campaigns are.<br />
This is in danger of being just another gimmick rather than a serious effort to regenerate the Welsh economy by restructuring the financial system.</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan</title>
		<link>http://www.jonathanedwards.org.uk/plaid-candidate-calls-for-local-loyalty-call-a-cymru-card/comment-page-1#comment-21</link>
		<dc:creator>Jonathan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Feb 2010 17:17:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chris

Many thanks for your comment.   The aim clearly is to redress the balance between the retailer and the producer.   I am often amazed when I go to other countries such as France and visit their super markets to see them stocked with local produce.   You are right to ask what’s the incentive for the retailer as essentially a card of this sort will undermine their business model which runs down revenue made by local food producers.   However buying local is increasingly a consumer choice and for the supermarkets a card of this sort could actually increase consumer flow.   As you are well aware from our discussions I am no fan of the current business models of supermarkets – they operate essentially as economic black holes that such the wealth out of our communities.   However, I am not anti supermarket if they act to the strengthen economic linkage within our communities, they could act at agents that circulate money in our communities helping regeneration.</description>
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<p>Many thanks for your comment.   The aim clearly is to redress the balance between the retailer and the producer.   I am often amazed when I go to other countries such as France and visit their super markets to see them stocked with local produce.   You are right to ask what’s the incentive for the retailer as essentially a card of this sort will undermine their business model which runs down revenue made by local food producers.   However buying local is increasingly a consumer choice and for the supermarkets a card of this sort could actually increase consumer flow.   As you are well aware from our discussions I am no fan of the current business models of supermarkets – they operate essentially as economic black holes that such the wealth out of our communities.   However, I am not anti supermarket if they act to the strengthen economic linkage within our communities, they could act at agents that circulate money in our communities helping regeneration.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Jones</title>
		<link>http://www.jonathanedwards.org.uk/plaid-candidate-calls-for-local-loyalty-call-a-cymru-card/comment-page-1#comment-20</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Jones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Feb 2010 14:24:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good to see some innovative thinking by Plaid in support of the local economy.
Please can you explain in simpler fashion how a loyalty card in a supermarket will benefit food producers? These loyalty cards are usually designed to benefit the supermarket not the producer. How are loyalty points going to be redeemed by the customer and what for?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good to see some innovative thinking by Plaid in support of the local economy.<br />
Please can you explain in simpler fashion how a loyalty card in a supermarket will benefit food producers? These loyalty cards are usually designed to benefit the supermarket not the producer. How are loyalty points going to be redeemed by the customer and what for?</p>
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